By: George_Spiggott
It'll be interesting to see the platform that dems run on this time. Will it be compelling enough to the masses to attract people? More to the point, will the press actually cover it, and do so with a...
View ArticleBy: rushmc
Impeachment.... well, impeaching Bush would make who president? Would that make you feel any better? One step at a time. You don't leave a mobster in power because you fear his lieutenant.
View ArticleBy: rushmc
Try coming up with something positive to move the nation forward I can think of nothing better or more appropriate to move the nation forward than to see Bush exposed, impeached, booted out, convicted,...
View ArticleBy: weston
All right. I take it back. Lynch 'em all. Seriously, I don't mind holding our friends in the white house accountable. That's fine. What I took out of Jos Bleau's post is that there's a point where this...
View ArticleBy: dglynn
It's as if Nixon or Kissenger said it. Any of these three could tell me the sky is blue and bears shit in the woods and it would still need independent corroboration. Would that be the same Kissinger...
View ArticleBy: Perigee
Charlie Chaplin said it once, in the guise of "The Great Dictator." He stepped out of character, spoke to the people from his heart directly from the screen. It was the start of the accusations of him...
View ArticleBy: soyjoy
I loved this rhetorical point: From Bush's SOTU - "Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide."
View ArticleBy: aacheson
So egregious and serious are Bush's misrepresentations that they appear to be a deliberate effort to mislead Congress and the public. So arrogant and secretive is the Bush White House that only a...
View ArticleBy: Perigee
"Mr. Jos Bleau , you have been accused of robbery, homicide, use of a deadly weapon in the course of a crime. How do you plead?""Look - the robbery is over - the dead people are dead. Try coming up...
View ArticleBy: amberglow
yesster and stonerose have it exactly right...why is it that the people (the administration) who are supposed to work for us, aren't accountable at all?
View ArticleBy: George_Spiggott
and I can't forget the reams of utter merde Dean emitted with that sincere little-boy look God, did this make anyone besides me think of Ollie North?
View ArticleBy: bshort
JB - so your tactic is to just change the subject, eh? If you can't address the points the other party is making, then just attack how they're saying it? I'm with yesster and stonerose, I think we need...
View ArticleBy: XQUZYPHYR
Even if you detest Bush, there's a decent amount of sense in what JB said. Melville wrote a book about single-minded pursuits.... So did Ken Starr.
View ArticleBy: stonerose
Jos Bleau, here (AGAIN!) is your positive agenda: We want to re-establish and strengthen accountability in government. We want to ensure that future foreign policy decisions are based on truthful...
View ArticleBy: Jos Bleau
Can any of you even articulate a positive agenda that doesn't require demonzation or telling me how bad I am or someone else is? That actually has positive things you want to achieve, and isn't about...
View ArticleBy: jfuller
> It was John Dean's honesty before Congress that busted > Watergate open. Like Joe Valachi he sang and sang pretty well. I still wouldn't turn my back on Joe in a dark alley, and I can't forget...
View ArticleBy: Ignatius J. Reilly
It was John Dean's honesty before Congress that busted Watergate open. He was indeed the only person left in the Nixon admin. with any credibility.
View ArticleBy: ahimsakid
Yes it's that John Dean and yes a cancer is growing on the presidency and I'd take his legal legal expertise over JB's. And oh, from the post:"It does not require a specific intent to deceive the...
View ArticleBy: Mick
The Democrats and their candidates for Presidency smell blood ...and I see no reason to tell them it is their own.
View ArticleBy: ahimsakid
What yesster said. If those who don't remember history are forced to repeat it, I wonder if we are paying the penance for not paying attention to Regan's duplicity in Central America?
View ArticleBy: jfuller
Aside from the other points in this thread, is that the John Dean of Watergate infamy? Looks like it. And if he is, nothing he says carries any weight, even if it happens to be true. It's as if Nixon...
View ArticleBy: bshort
In the SOTU the POTUS doesn't submit a bill for payment and he's not there as part of an investigation or review, so the statute doesn't apply. Exactly how stupid are you? The original text says:...
View ArticleBy: yesster
A "better way forward" is to prosecute anyone and everyone in the Bush administration for their roles in this grand deception. Failure to do so will only ensure that it happens again in the future, by...
View ArticleBy: SweetJesus
Another opportunity sqaundered. You've reached all the folks you can with Bush-hate - instead of misconstruing legal texts in a snipe hunt to destroy Bush, why not come up with a positve and better way...
View ArticleBy: BigCalm
you don't just need to prove that the person is wrong, but that he lied A good point, and one that those in power are well aware of. If they can keep the intelligence that their decisions were based on...
View ArticleBy: Jos Bleau
Armitage - EEk, sorry about that! Good thing my mom is out of the country! In the SOTU the POTUS doesn't submit a bill for payment and he's not there as part of an investigation or review, so the...
View ArticleBy: whatever
From Mr. Dean's article: In making this observation, I realize that some Republicans will pound the patriotism drum, claiming that anyone who questions Bush's call to arms is politicizing the Iraqi...
View ArticleBy: bshort
bshort, did you read your own citation? It only applies to claims for payment of expenses or other employment/contracting matters, and investigations of same. It has nothing to do with general...
View ArticleBy: stonerose
Jos Bleau, I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that the limitation you're referring to applies to accusations against the legislative branch, not the executive branch: (c) With respect to any matter...
View ArticleBy: Jos Bleau
If lying to congress was a crime Bob Dornan would have been hung, drawn & quartered 10 yeasr ago. bshort, did you read your own citation? It only applies to claims for payment of expenses or other...
View ArticleBy: bshort
bshort, if lying to congress was a felony, a lot of its members would be in jail. Lying under oath to congress is a felony, but the the SOTU is not delivered under oath. Actually, lying to Congress is...
View ArticleBy: acrobat
Try coming up with something positive to move the nation forward Forward! On to Syria, Iran, Korea and any old fucker who gets in our way. After all, you can lie to the American public, and then...
View ArticleBy: stonerose
What yesster said. I would also add that 'letting it go' is basically what the 'left' did after Bush was handed the election. Gore conceded, and we all went away prepared to let Bush follow through on...
View ArticleBy: yesster
Lay off? What JB says is basically "Hey, that's all in the past, forget it and move on." That's a pretty asinine approach to accountability in government. The Bush administration lied us into a war,...
View ArticleBy: stonerose
Don't take my word for it, Jos Bleau: U.S. Commander in Iraq Says Yearlong Tours Are Option to Combat 'Guerrilla' War.
View ArticleBy: weston
Yeesh. Lay off Jos Bleau. Even if you detest Bush, there's a decent amount of sense in what JB said. Melville wrote a book about single-minded pursuits....
View ArticleBy: Jos Bleau
bshort, if lying to congress was a felony, a lot of its members would be in jail. Lying under oath to congress is a felony, but the the SOTU is not delivered under oath. And stonerose, the war IS over....
View ArticleBy: yesster
Hey, Jos Bleau, how bout we don't talk about the taxes I owe the IRS, or my student loan debt that's 10 years old - I can just tell the government to "find something positive and move forward." See,...
View ArticleBy: rainbaby
I was talking about the Democrats, esp. those running, I know it was unclear.
View ArticleBy: stonerose
Well, Jos Bleau, that's inspiring. An inaccuracy (The war is over) an Oasis lyric ([don't] look back in anger) and a misspelled word (loosing) in support of a totally inappropriate historical analogy....
View ArticleBy: bshort
And you'll notice that when he was president he didn't try to give California back to Mexicans. The war is over. Try coming up with something positive to move the nation forward, not look back in...
View ArticleBy: Jos Bleau
The most important part of the article is: "President Polk lied the nation into war with Mexico so he could acquire California as part of his Manifest Destiny. It was young Illinois Congressman Abraham...
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